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. they came up with instead a very, very weak answer. harry reid caved into the republicans on this, i hate to say it. sol many democrats were saying this is going to be fine because now, we all agree that you need 60. we didn't get rid of it. they can use it. they don't have to come to the floor and talk at that talk, but it's going to work. it's going to work because republicans have greedp agreed they will filibuster for stuff that's really important. when harry reid and mitch mcconnell agree this is really worth it. damn if, we said at the time this was phony, it was not going to work, it was not going to make any change. republicans were going to abuse it. they would never abide by that agreement. two weeks ago. republicans trotted it out yesterday, put a filibuster on the nomination of chuck hagel to be our next secretary of defense, and they won. you need 60 votes to get over it. and the most they could get with the democrats and four republicans was 58 votes t he lost by one vote. harry reid ended up having to vote no. that way, by voting know he
't think you can trust -- >> senate majority leader harry reid says he hopes gun legislation will come out of the judiciary committee but he was noncommittal over whether he would sign an assault weapons ban. >> would you vote for it? >> frankly, she knows, i haven't read her amendment, i didn't vote for the assault weapons last time because it didn't make sense but i'll take a look at it. >> i will bring in "washington post" columnist ruth marcus and senior staff writer for "the hill" alex bolton. good monday morning to both of you. ruth, this is the president's first big sell to the american people. what do you think he needs to say here? >> well, the president said he was going to give it everything he's got. i think what he needs to say is look, don't listen to the nra, listen to logic or listen to the nra from a number of years ago when it supported universal background checks. i think that there are three issues here in order of likelihood. one is background checks which has huge support and makes complete sense. one is limits on magazine sizes which i completely think the administra
thinks senate majority leader harry reid needs to get to work on guns. >>> the boy scouts are getting ready to end their policy of discrimination against gays, and the president is standing with them. >> should scouting be open to gays? >> yes. >> i'll tell you how conservatives are fighting the process. the. >>> it's the super bowl commercial everybody is talking about. >> god looked down on his planned paradise and said i need a caretaker. so god made a farmer. >> god created the family farmer. i'll tell you how republicans are destroying them. all that plus e.j. dionne, karen finney and jonathan alter on why conservatives are actually trying to blame the super bowl blackout on the president. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching there is a major development on gun legislation today, but there is a good chance you haven't heard about it. president obama continued the push for common sense gun reform today in minneapolis. he was surrounded by law enforcement officers with the city and the state. the president asked americans to stand with the men and women in t
that there is a director of the atf might solve a little bit of that problem. let's move on to harry reid because harry reid has been asked about gun patrol. control. he has been asked by george stephanopoulos. and here's what he had to say about it. >> would you vote for it? >> i didn't vote for the assault weapons last time because it didn't make sense but i'll take a look at it. >> now here is the important thing to remember about harry reid. he's facing a little bit of a conundrum because there is what is good for the country and what his constituents in nevada wants. and of course in nevada they're very much pro gun. and he is very much pro gun himself. it is very unlikely that he's well to support an assault weapons ban. but he was also talking about background checks. let's hear what he said about that. >> everyone acknowledged that we should have universal background checks. i support the second amendment but you can do things like that. >> michael, what are your thoughts. do you think harry reid will take the lead on gun control? >> i don't think he'll take the lead, but he's the smartest poli
for passing the president's agenda, senate leader harry reid, the gatekeeper only on "this week." >>> plus, all the week's politics and super bowl predictions on our powerhouse roundtable with nobel prize winning economist paul krugman of "the new york times" and ceo carly fiorina and jorge ramos of univision, lou barletta and abc's matthew dowd. >>> hello again. president obama says that our headliner has the toughest job in washington. top republicans claim he makes it harder than he needs to be and no single senator will have more influence over the president's agenda than harry reid who we met for this exclusive interview. he was feisty and confident. especially on this week's top issue, immigration reform. >> it has to get done. we have to work hard to get it done. it's really easy to write principles, to write legislation, much harder and once we write the legislation we have to get it passed but i think things are looking really good. looking good for a number of reason, the right thing to do and number two, the republicans can no longer stop this. they've tried it and it hasn't wor
they have been very silent on this issue in terms of where they are going. harry reid, look at the number of democrats up for re-election. the president has to get his own party's house in order before they can proceed to get a political victory. >> interesting. speaking of harry reid, i want to play a clip from him. he's asked if he would vote for dianne feinstein's plan. >> i didn't vote for assault weapons last time because it didn't make sense. i'll take a look at it. >> restrictions on high capacity magazines? >> i think it's something we have to look at. >> take a look or vote for? >> let's see what it is. i have been supported by the nra on occasion. i know wayne lapierre. he's been extremely pleasant with me. we have a good relationship. i am not here to demean the organization. >> if the democratic senate majority cannot give a full support, how will it pass in. >> a couple things. harry reid along with a number of democrats and republicans, and there are plenty of republican that is have been quiet on this as well. politically speaking, they are taking a step back, waiting to le
harry reid does not agree. vice president biden was in pennsylvania to push the president's gun control ban including that expanded background check and the end of the sale of large-capacity ammo clips. do you think it will go over in pennsylvania as well. >> in most states even conservatives once you'll see a split where gun violence is an every day problem and people are exposed to it and they have an issue with it. in the rural area even in a deep blue state like new york, in the rural areas where they don't see a lot of gun violence but they use their weapons for hunting you'll see them with a backdrop of officers wearing the uniform badges and they'll have scary guns on display and cher scary, showing people this is the law enforcement problem. we have a gun violence problem. police officers whether they be liberal or conservative don't want to see these weapons on the street. we need to solve it. that's playing from rural areas of kentucky to obviously to cities across the country. >> john: playing the responsible law enforcement card is a mighty powerful thing to do. but the pres
that harry reid and john boehner speak on a river basis. they try to speak once a week. there were conversations before recess about the possibility of all this. we don't know but perhaps there were discussions on the sidelines of the rosa parks statue unveiling yesterday. the house majority leader have been firm. the senate we'll -- we'll deal with it great otherwise, it does not look like there will be significant progress. we have to wait and see. the way it works, sometimes these conversations are ongoing. somebody is coming to the floor or a bill can be brought up and things can get moving again. we are in a wait and see mode. otherwise, we are waiting to see things go at the white house and whether lawmakers will jump in on friday or wait until next week. host: thank you for your time. ed o'keefe for the washington post. the "washington times" here is president obama and speaker boehner. never let it be said that president obama has failed to spend time with the begin leaders in seeking an alternative to budget cuts that will hit most federal departments on friday. on wednesd
are in the majority, it's a little bit of a greater responsibility. harry reid has to make the decision whether or not to bring these bills to the floor. there are marginal members in his caucus that might not want to take these issues up. he is responsible for them in some sense. i do believe the mayor is very much involved in this issue. we've been spending a lot of time lobbying members of congress, members of the senate on both republicans and democrats. i do believe that the senate is going to take these issues up. i do believe harry reid is going to bring comprehensive gun bill to the floor. maybe in different pieces. it may be one package. that will be his decision. i do believe something is going to pass in a bipartisan way out of the senate. you saw politico reporting there was a bipartisan group, republicans and democrats from rural and urban states who are working on a comprehensive package on a background checks. i thinkure going to see something get through the senate, and then i think you will have house republicans -- not the majority of them. some number. 20, 30, 40. who will be
majority leader harry reid had to switch his vote to know to bring the vote back up again after the senate comes back from recess. you have a lot of republican senators who said as recently as last week that they did not want to see the choice filibuster. even if they wanted to vote no, he at least deserved an uptown vote to be approved. there was no precedent -- precedent to filibuster president's choice like this. the republicans decided they wanted to try to use this vote as a way to extract more information from the white house on the issues like the terrorist attack on benghazi in september. they submitted to passing hagel when they come back. it way you're looking at, is delaying the inevitable. chuck hagel will be confirmed as defense secretary. he is just going to get to wait 11 days. to me, it seems like you should confirm him, because you're going to confirm him anyway. it is just another delay in what the senate is trying to do. harry reid set a new vote for tuesday, in 11 days. what do republicans want to see in the meantime? guest: they say they would like answers again from t
ought to stop calling it universal check, it's the check on law abiding people. >> reporter: harry reid says he supports the second amendment but he is not going on to let the nra getting in his way. >> just because they resist it doesn't mean we can't do things. we have a lot of special interest groups complain about things, we'll listen to them and make the right decision. >> he says the senate might soon debate on an assault weapons ban something that gabrielle giffords's husband argued for today. >> i spent 25 years in the military. i know the value of having an assault weapon and i think they are way too readily available. in time we will be able to address those issues. >> nra said enforcing existing laws would reduce gun violence and so would rounding up gangs in places like chicago. >> gregg: peter, thanks. >> heather: new information now on a charter bus crash in boston that left 35 people injured and one critically. the vehicle carrying high schoolers and chaperones it slammed into an overpass. the driver of the bus ignored road clearance warning signs. passengers say the impa
and a universal background check. senate majority leader harry reid says he's thinking bin doresing the backed checks but he's not to too ke, n on a ban on assault weapons. martha: he suggested that might not good over too well with his constituents. thank you very much. >> more on that now. republicans not the only ones questioning gun control measures. even the senate's top democrat is not sold on the idea. senate majority leader harry reid says he's willing to push for mow extensive background checks but he's not sure if he'll actually vote to bana salt weapons and high capacity a ammunition magazines, take a listen. >> i didn't volt for the assault weapons last night because it didn't make sense. i'll take a look eight. we need to take a look at federal trafficking. i think that everyone acknowledges we should do background checks. >> reareid must strike a delicate balance while following the president's lead without alienating nevada's balance. >> a navy seal was gunned down thousands of miles from any battlefield. chris kyle and a friend were shot and killed at a gun range in texas over
the most extreme element in their own party through the primary processes, and that's why harry reid right now is running the senate. >> but there are -- i mean, you saw the front page of the business section of "the new york times" yesterday. there are people who want these assault weapons, and they're selling off the shelves at twice the price. twice the price. i was online looking at guns. it's unbelievable how they're marketed. people like them. people in america feel they need these multiple -- what's that? >> did you buy one? >> no, i was just trying to understand. i personally don't get it. but there is -- it's not just an extreme fringe tiny bit of society. there are people out there who support this. >> i tell you what. >> in our society. >> there aren't enough of those people out there that feel like they have to have an assault weapon to carry presidential elections or senate elections. >> there's enough to make gun manufacturers a lot of money, to make the gun lobby powerful, to make people like wayne la bpie e pierre -- >> think about the money he makes by ginning up fear in a
it has to happen. senator reid, harry reid, proposed legislation that would dover the sequestration to the next year. it would be paid for in a balanced way by additional revenue as well as additional -- >> tax hikes. >> indeed. >> -- cuts in spending and that's the way to proceed in avoiding the blunt across-the-board cuts and getting us chance to get back into the regular order, proposing a budget, doing an appropriations bill. >> and we should point out, it's been the democrats who have been in charge of the senate who haven't come up with a budget for the last four years so that's why we haven't this h a regular one. >> he had the budget control act of 2011 which set the caps, which was budgetary and not a resolution between the two houses. we're working on a budget right now and need to get that done. we need time. the sequestration will preempt us from getting a budget done and other factors. >> it's kind of always that you guys need more time and can we put it off until next year. to me it's like the fiscal cliff and now it involves the military and these men saying we won't
't had a valentine's day budget in four years." from harry reid. and from vice president biden, "today's three letter word -- l-o-v-e." we now know the recession and the euro zone is getting worse, not better. that cannot be good news for the u.s., actually. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot has the story from london. >> the latest figure shows euro zone falling deeper in recession. >> europe is spluttering, stuttering and having a terrible time. >> effectively a double dip recession. some of the hardest hit country were debt-plagued spain and italy. france was sluggish. growth in germany down .6%. slow growth in economic powerhouse germany is especially worrying. the weakness is hurting the german exports. adding to economic headache, strike of security workers for higher pay snarled airports in germany today. >> he said is up it. even if i suffer for it. further come pounding problems debt-ridden countries are saddled with high unemployment. the jobless rate in greece is record 27%. i come here all the time. there are no jobs. economists say there could be some pick nu
of questions about whether democratic legislators up to and including harry reid would support what the president wants to do when t comes to gun control. >> that is a good question, jon. in the political calculus that is pretty simple. you have democrats that could be embarrassed if forced take a vote on guns. like assault weapons ban, et cetera. those are in conservative states or in the house in conservative districts may have been carried by mitt romney and they're holding on by a thread. we're talking about whether or not senate majority leader harry reid is willing to put those democrats at risk and also then put at risk control of the senate because republicans have fewer people who were running, who will be running in 14 and fewer people who are at risk. though again, the dynamic is very difficult for the democrats and here's a vote that would expose them to great political costs. jon: let's take, let's take another listen at one of the things the president said last night. >> and i know you want these job-creating projects in your district. i've seen all those ribbon cuttin
. >> that is classic harry reid. he said that when why do something he doesn't like. if we agreed to everything he wanted to do he might be happy. nevertheless, this is a serious situation when you talk about a secretary of defense. this is the most important choice a president can make. i think he's made a choice even democrats scratching their head and they were embarrassed also about the performance, unacceptable performance of chuck hagel before the armed services committee . i think it deserves at least a little time to continue to look at what his position and going and leadership he can or can't provide. i don't know what the democratics will circle the wagon and support the president. but many of them have real concerns over whether it a good choice. >> we'll see if they go public with those. senator dan coats, for your time. >> thank you. >> pakistani officials called a deadly bombing a failure of security and intelligence agencies. security official it is did not act because they are scared of what the terrorist may do to them. 81 people were kim 61 others were injured. a mass funeral is
for the republicans and harry reid. >> they did not filibuster them. >> that sets a dangerous precede precedent. >> by the way, alex, i blame harry reid and the democrats, too. we had a chance at the beginning of the congress. we had a chance to make real filibuster reform and we took a pass. >> okay. you make a good point there. let's listen to john mccain talking about immigration. here it is. >> the president, obviously has some thoughts about immigration reform which he drafted and guided his agencies to comment on. if the president proposes legislation, do you think it will fail? >> of course. of course it will. that is why we are working together, republicans and democrats, by the way he had no communications with the congress. i believe we are making progress in a bipartisan basis. >> does this sound like republicans saying no for any of the president's proposals? >> no. >> no. >> my problem with president obama is alex, he does not negotiate with republicans. he doesn't bring the leadership up to talk to him. he doesn't make phone calls. >> does he do that with democrats? >> that is tru
for a vote. and majority leader harry reid said monday the lew vote could be held as early as tomorrow. on the house side of capitol hill today speaker john boehner talked about the automatic budget cuts which will go into effect friday, the sequestration, if congress doesn't act. in his remarks he criticized senate democrats for delaying action to prevent the cuts. >> the president has known for 16 months that this sequester was looming out there when the super-committee failed to come to an agreement. and so for 16 months the president has been traveling all over the country holding rallies instead of sitting down with senate leaders and in order to try to forge an agreement over there in order to move the bill. we have moved the bill in the house twice. we should not have to move a third bill before the senate gets off their ass and begins to do something. >> house speaker john boehner this morning, had remarks by president obama to the defense community. he is into newport news at about. >> people were traveling. either traveling for fun or traveling, looking for a job. make they w
? >> it will certainly pass the senate. >> democratic leader in the senate, harry reid, saying an immigration bill will pass his chamber, what will that mean for the millions here illegally remains to be seen. ♪ >>> oh, yeah, the countdown to the big game in the big easy is on. live to new orleans to see how they are getting ready for super bowl xlvii. news in northern texas. police have arrested a 25-year-old man. and charged him with two counts of murder there. he shot and killed two men at a gun range just outside ft. worth yesterday. one of the dead, decorated iraq war veteran, chris kyle whether or not by all accounts may have been the most deadly sniper in the history of the u.s. military. we're expecting to get a little more information on this story from police very soon. when that happens, we will, of course, bring you the very latest live. >>> meanwhile, to alabama for the latest on that hostage standoff in its sixth straight day. law enforcement officials say this man, jimmy lee dykes, shot and killed a school bus driver and is holding a 5-year-old boy named ethan in an underground bu
and the senate? caller: harry reid of nevada is a gun owner, democratic leader. mitch mcconnell of kentucky, as i recall. we did not get an answer at all from john boehner, the house speaker. nancy pelosi does not own a gun. host: what about the chairman of the house judiciary and senate judiciary committees? the legislation is going to go to them. host: that is -- caller: that is one of the most interesting ones. senator leahy is a gun owner, but he is also a very strong advocate for gun control. he will be delivering one of the key points in the debate. their committees are likely to be the first out the door with legislation. there will be interesting things coming from some unlikely he, coming from vermont, who lives in a state where gun ownership is not all that unusual. it will be interesting to see if he can thread the needle between a healthy respect for guns and a healthy concern for guns and gun safety. i think that he will be a very interesting player to watch. host: let me conclude by asking how you interpreted the president's remarks yesterday in minneapolis. what does that mean for
with him that there is a do nothing congress, but it is the senate, harry reid who is the do nothing. they have passed legislation for the last two years in the house of representatives, since the republicans had control. what happens? nothing. the senate sits on it and does nothing. second i want to -- want to talk about fiber. there is technology available today where each individual home could be self-sufficient -- self-sufficient with its own energy sell. what is amazing is if we have 500 years of natural gas, there it is. nobody can attack us if every household has energy. we eliminate the grid because everyone has the wrong grade. there is a company in california that is powering e day using methane gas. that company is blue energy of california. host: the president signed an executive order last week regarding cyber security. some news about that, they intended to improve information sharing to establish a framework of cyber security best practices. "the white house spent the last several months crafting the order after congress failed to pass cyber security legislation last y
, and the reason why it was 58 votes is because harry reid switched his vote to no soap the senate can bring it back up again. you have a lot of republican senators who were saying last week that they did not want to see it go up in filibuster. at least it would be an up-down of the to be approved. there was no precedent to filibuster a choice like this. and the republicans decided they wanted to use this vote as a way to extract more information from the white house on issues like the terrorist attack in benghazi in september, and so they are committed to passing a goal when they come back. the way you are looking at it, it is a tedious exercise in delaying the inevitable. chuck hagel will be confirmed. he will just have to wait 11 days. you should confirm him because you are going to confirm him anyway. it is just another delay in what the senate is trying to do. host: harry reid set a new vote for tuesday, in 11 days. what do republicans want to see in the meantime? guest: they say they would like answers again from the white house, more details about what the president did and did not do
is, according to harry reid, there was a huddle but jake tapper was told that the lawmakers were told to, quote, talk solutions. that certainly would be a change. >> the president, republican and democratic leaders coming together to unveil civil rights icon rosa parks, all pulling in the same direction. the partisan tug-of-war over. >> mr. president, you honor us with your presence. thank you for being here. >> reporter: but this bipartisan moment was just that. a moment. here's the senate leaders going at it just 45 minutes earlier. >> he wasn't elected to work with the congress he want. he was elected to work with a congress he had. >> republicans are too busy fighting among themselves to unite behind a course so they are instead doing nothing. zero. >> reporter: the president did ask congressional leaders to the white house to discuss forced spending cuts for their first face-to-face meeting that republicans call devastating. but the invitation is for friday, the same day those cuts kick in. democrats came to the president's defense. why wait so long? >> well, look, it is entirely
with the nra is harry reid. i don't know if he's still a member, he was a member at one point. i wonder if you characterize the nra relationship with harry reid own the years and also talk about what you have communicated about over the past few weeks with the man who will decide on whether a gun restriction law is bill is brought to the floor of the senate. >> i'm not our lobbyist. any recent conversations with senator reid would not be really within my -- i have not personally talked to senator reid. we had a relatively friendly relationship with the senator over time. we did not endorse him for re-election. we didn't endorse his opponent either. we supported him at the primary level last time. he has been, when firearms legislation has not been the priority of his president, he's a partisan leader, she's been responsive to constituents in nevada and has been relatively friendly on second amendment issues. he's under incredible pressure right now. he's got, as any member of congress or senator does, he has his own beliefs. he has the views and the demands of his constituents on the one hand,
mentioned democrats better members of your organization it seems maybe the most prominent is harry reid. or maybe at one point* for my kid you characterize your relationship with him over the years and talk about what you communicated over the past few weeks with the man who will decide whether a gun restrictions lot is brought to the floor? >> i am not our lobbyist so in recent conversation with not be within my, i have not personally talked with senator reid. we have a relatively friendly relationship over time. we did not endorse him for reelection or his opponent but we did support him that the primary level last time. when firearms legislation has not been a priority, after all he is a partisan leader he has been responsive to his constituents of nevada and relatively friendly on second amendment issues. he is tendered bridal pressure right now because as any member of congress, he has his own beliefs, the views of his constituents, of the pressure as the party leader, the president of the other, where harry reid and that is in nobody's guess and that is a guessing game right now.
will be debating chuck hagel's domination as defense secretary. the vote after they finish talks. harry reid says the full senate could vote on the nomination as early as tomorrow. hagel, former republican senator from nebraska, faces strong opposition from fellow republicans. >>> north korea thumbing its nose at the u.s. and the international community by carrying out a new, more powerful nuclear test. it is the first one under leader kim jong-un. president obama calls it a threat to the u.s. security and world peace. the first indication of the underground test came when seismologists detected a tremor in an area that is not known for earthquakes into in jerusalem, ten women detained at the western wall. one of them happens to be the sister of comedian sarah silverman. police detained rabbi silverman praying at the wall wearing a prayer shawl only worn by men. they were released several hours later. i don't care much for people who use religion as a cloak to justify hatred, injustice and fear and i can't imagine god, should he or she or it exist, does either. i am so proud of my sister and niec
out on this question, i agree with senator harry reid. when it came to the nomination of john bold, and in a of members of this body asked for additional disclosures from john bolton, and those disclosures were not forthcoming. harry reid said the following, the administration stonewalling has no one had the effect of slowing down the confirmation process, it has also put a further cloud over this individual and perhaps unnecessarily, raised the impression that the nominee and the white house have something to hide. i don't know if mr. hagel has received funds directly or indirectly from foreign sources, from extreme sources, but his refusal to provide disclosure i think is highly troubling. and i would suggest every member of this committee and every member of this body should stand together and at least insisting on adequate disclosure. i'll make one final point. some have asked, would you make the same request of a republican nominee? i'll point out you can chuck hagel is a republican. i don't know him personally, unlike many members of this committee. isa limit was record, and
associated with the nra is harry reid. i don't know if he still is a member, but i wonder if you could characterize the relationship with harry reid over the years and also talk about what you have communicated about with the man who will decide on whether a gun restriction law is brought to the floor of the senate. >> i am not our lobbyists, so any recent conversations with a senator reid would not be really within my --i have not talked with senator reid. we have had a relatively friendly relationship with the senator over time. we did not endorse him with reelection. we did not endorse his opponent either. we did support him at the primary level last time. he has been when firearms legislation has not been at the priority of his leader, he has been relatively friendly on second amendment issues. he is under incredible pressure because he has got come as any member of congress or senate does, he has his own beliefs. he has the views and demands of his constituents on the one hand and the pressure he faces as a party leader and from his president on the other. where harry reid ends up
committee, appears to have the support of the most powerful democrat in congress, majority leader harry reid. >> so i have the utmost confidence in him as. as to the rest of the investigation, they'll have to be handled the way they're all handled around here, in depth. the ethics committee are taking a look at it. >> there's some relatively serious allegations here. are you confident he did nothing wrong? >> i have confidence he did not, did nothing wrong but that's what's investigations are all about. >> reporter: the rnc released an e-mail that says senator menendez is becoming, quote, a headache for democrats. in the e-mail, identifying owe mendez as d-obama problem. >> so he's obviously willing to fight back. >> i think it shows his office is now turning a corner. last week he was sort of dodging reporters. he he was going down stairwells that even reporters who cover that beat often don't know about. this suggests with his office e-mailing out this video from univision that they're ready to fight back on these allegations. >> i know you'll stay on top of the story. >>> president obama
the leadership in the house and the senate? caller: harry reid of nevada is a gun owner, democratic leader. mitch mcconnell of kentucky, as i recall. -- i believe he declined to talk with us. we did not get an answer at all from john boehner, the house speaker. nancy pelosi does not own a gun. host: what about the chairman of the house judiciary and senate judiciary committees? the legislation is going to go to them. caller: that is one of the most interesting ones. senator leahy is a gun owner, but he is also a very strong advocate for gun control. he will be one of the key points in the debate -- he will be delivering one of the key points in the debate. their committees are likely to be the first out the door with legislation. there will be interesting things coming from some unlikely he, coming from vermont, who lives in a state where gun ownership is not all that unusual. it will be interesting to see if he can thread the needle between a healthy respect for guns and a healthy concern for guns and gun safety. i think that he will be a very interesting player to watch. host: let me conclude b
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